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SOD and SOW: Philip and Melanie kiss!; July 28th issues; Summary of Articles
Topic Started: Jul 15 2009, 11:21 AM (4,593 Views)
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Tripp
Jul 19 2009, 08:56 AM
I can get over large age gaps if the story is done right and the chemistry is there. But if you are thinking I'm going to get on board with any guy closer to 30 dating an EIGHTEEN year old, while the show pretends there is nothing out of the ordinary, you're very wrong.

And a person's age does factor into the equation. I'm sorry. It's part of what makes a person who they are. Are you the same person you were when you were ten? Do you think you'll be the same person when you are fifty? Seventy? Our tastes change as we grow and mature, the emphasis being on mature. Some twenty year olds are more mature then some forty year olds, I admit,

but Philip given and everything he's been through is mature enough as it is, but I'm not buying Melanie as anything but a annoying trouble-maker who acts like a teenager.
Can't speak for anyone else but here's why I posted: I didn't get the impression people were belittling your opinion, in fact I respect it a great deal. It's one thing for people to not like Melanie, hell I can list out 20 more reasons why not to like the character and the skill of the actress, and it's one thing to think they don't have chemistry--ok, it's subjective. However people were saying that it was unrealistic and illogical for them to be friends and/or dating is where I objected. I also disagree that the show is pretending there's nothing out of the ordinary. They have and they're just not making a huge deal out of it because for one Melanie isn't dating either brady or Phillip and when you have a friend who is different from you, you don't spend huge amounts of time discussing the differences.

I agree the person's age does factor into telling a romantic story and I agree it should be woven into the story. At the same time, many of the other stories on right now and recently haven't delved into any of the differences.

I keep hearing Phillip is such a mature person but I wonder how did he earn this description. Phillip has waffled between man-ing up and between being a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon. He's made many immature decisions within the last year.
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Jul 20 2009, 12:32 AM
I keep hearing Phillip is such a mature person but I wonder how did he earn this description. Phillip has waffled between man-ing up and between being a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon. He's made many immature decisions within the last year.
What he did to earn this description - Philip is a war hero with multiple serious injuries that he's had to overcome; he's been married; thought he had fathered a child (and was a great dad to that child for a year); he's the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation...he's supposed to be a grown-up.

Just his life experiences give him maturity regardless of whether or not he's acting like a spoiled brat or whether or not some decisions are "immature."

His life experience is vastly different from a college co-ed or from a girl just out of high school. I honestly don't see what either type of woman would offer him or how they would interest him, other than being arm candy or a roll in the sack. I don't see him having relationships with or marrying either girl.

And it bugs me because Philip had grown up, only now they have to de-age him and play up the whole immature spoiled brat angle. I was so excited when Hogan brought Chloe back and was writing Philip as a tough, mature, closed off, adult. Philip was an actual grown-up, and it was awesome to watch. I want that back. I don't want him dating or even being friends with someone who has nothing to offer him, who does his character no favors and who fouls up his storylines by making him look like a letch.

I would be willing to wipe all kinds of things under the rug for a couple that I enjoyed, but when it's a couple with no chemistry that I don't like, those totally implausible situations just leap out and make things worse.
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Sariah
Jul 22 2009, 10:38 AM
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Jul 20 2009, 12:32 AM
I keep hearing Phillip is such a mature person but I wonder how did he earn this description. Phillip has waffled between man-ing up and between being a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon. He's made many immature decisions within the last year.
What he did to earn this description - Philip is a war hero with multiple serious injuries that he's had to overcome; he's been married; thought he had fathered a child (and was a great dad to that child for a year); he's the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation...he's supposed to be a grown-up.

Just his life experiences give him maturity regardless of whether or not he's acting like a spoiled brat or whether or not some decisions are "immature."

His life experience is vastly different from a college co-ed or from a girl just out of high school.
That's exactly it, yes Phillip has life experience but he has yet to use those experiences to make mature decisions. Yes, being a war vet requires great bravery and dedication but many of those kids coming back from Iraq still do kids stuff, run out on their children, dont get a job etc. Yes, he was married but as soon as things didn't go his way, he wanted what he wanted and chased Belle and Claire around the globe without regard to his daughter's well being. Yes, he's a CEO but only because daddy handed him the business and even Victor doesn't trust him to make thoughtful decisions as he has Brady as his babysitter. Philip's relationship with Brady shows just how immature he is. He still lets people rattle his cage. I get that people (not necessarily you) are hot for Philip and want him maintain this ideal of a man but the character of Philip has been written consistantly since the teen years; he's had his great manly, mature moments but moments of immaturity mixed in there too. I like the character of EJ but I would be mistaken if I thought EJ was a pure gentelman. Sure he can be suave and charming on the outside but the man has no problems getting physically rough with women ie kate, sami, nicole, melanie. So even tho I love the guy I am open to seeing the characters for who they are. melanie has life experience too but I wouldn't ever describe her as mature either. I get it if people dont like the chemistry or even the age gap, but I contend people who "shouldn't" get together do in real life. Maybe I missed the key part of their love story but to me the pairing Lexie and Abe are victims of the line of thought of people who "should" be together.
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I guess things have changed for me on the feelings I have for Melanie. Once she started to show some growth and did not come off as so selfish and spiteful, I enjoyed her much more. She is an offbeat character, due to Molly's infectious style. If anyone caught MB on "True Blood" it is easy to see that MB can don another persona with ease. She was charming as the innocent yet tempting little Christian singer. That completely won me over. Plus, the girl can sing.

To me the writers have given Melanie growth which is attractive while giving Stephanie entitlement, everlasting whining and overblown seflrighteousness which makes me dislike her character intensly. I do not need a character to be perfect to like them. In fact, pseudo perfection is just a turnoff and frankly, I cannot identify with such "perfection".

I love JKJ. I have always loved his characterization of Philip. He is far from perfect yet he has these soft moments and surprising moments which are endearing. The dimples don't hurt either. But...having Philip paired with Stephanie has caused me to gnash my teeth and ff many of their scenes. I hate how this coupling has made me so unaffected by Philip except for feeling sorry for him. JKJ's scenes with MB have always had a bit of sizzle to them. I just like watching these two act together. Should they be a couple? I don't know. The age factor is a nonfactor to me. If Philip was Melanie's uncle I would have a huge problem. But most of all I want to be entertained by the couples I see, whether they be friends, lovers or enemies. It is all about chemistry for me. Phil/Steph are DULL.

But this show has exhibited the penchant for shoving couples at the audience that have zero chemistry ad nauseum. SAFE, Chex, Chett and Lucas and anyone. There are more but these few came to mind. I just don't understand the philosophy. The show is a product. The product has to have appeal. If no,t the product does not sell. Even with the mediocre writers on this show, if the onscreen actors have chemistry, the audience will tune in.

So if I can enjoy a moment of Philip kissing or talking with Melanie over the dullard, drippy Stephanie, I'll take it. I know that loser will be back to dictating how Philip lives soon enough. Someone out there just doesn't get it.

thanks for posting!
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